Talk:New York University Tandon School of Engineering

Inventions

Most of the inventions listed whose development the school is claimed to have been involved in, according to an unreliable and unreadable source, had nothing to do with this school. Those such as radar, microwaves, polymers and countless others. Also saying it was supportive of "Thomas Edison's invention of the electric light bulb" is spurious since Edison did not invent the electric light bulb. Have editors tried to correct these errors hence the lock? Article needs a complete overhaul. 82.24.169.40 (talk) 21:05, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 July 2024

chaning = changing 2603:8000:D300:3650:B4F9:CDFA:C333:6429 (talk) 08:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 11:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Edit request

Request edit to reflect the new Dean. Currently it is listed as Jelena Kovacevic, who stepped down on August 31. The new Executive Dean is Juan J. de Pablo (Juan J. de Pablo) Reference: https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2024/july/juan-de-pablo-named-executive-dean-of-nyu-s-tandon-school-of-eng.html

Under the "Brooklyn Campus" section, 3 factual edits:

- in the last sentence, Center is misspelled with the European spelling "Centre" in Center for Urban Science and Progress

- Suggest adding reference that the University purchased 3 MetroTech from JP Morgan, a 350,000 square foot building in MetroTech Center, as part of plans to expand NYU Tandon's campus. Reference: https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2022/november/Tandon_3Metrotech.html

- Under Manhattan Sites, add a sentence to the end of the current first paragraph after "The School of Engineering and Colleges of Nursing and Dentistry are located in the building where chemical, biomolecular engineers, as well as mechanical engineers do research in biomaterials and biotherapeutics for regenerative medicine." with suggested text "In 2024, NYU announced plans to expand life-science programs into a new collaborative lab space called InnoLabs in Long Island City, including NYU Tandon's biomedical engineering program." Reference: https://nyunews.com/news/2024/03/11/tandon-langone-expansion-innolabs/

Under "Research" section, suggest updating the first sentence to reflect the most recent research expenditures. Suggested wording is: "In 2023, the school reported $59 million in externally sponsored research expenditures." (Same reference citation: https://engineering.nyu.edu/about/fast-facts#fast-facts-4)

Facereiusrei (talk) 19:22, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Please declare your conflict of interest on this topic on your user page, as required at WP:COI. Axad12 (talk) 09:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

WP:COI does not require editors to "declare [their] conflict of interest...on [their] user page." ElKevbo (talk) 12:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

It does if they are paid (i.e. if the request relates to their employer), which is a reasonable assumption here. WP:COI states you must disclose who is paying you, on whose behalf the edits are made, and any other relevant affiliation, you should make the disclosure on your user page, on affected talk pages, and whenever you discuss the topic Axad12 (talk) 12:08, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Furthermore, an editor has a financial conflict of interest whenever they write about a topic with which they have a close financial relationship. This includes being an owner, employee, contractor, investor or other stakeholder (my emphasis). See the relevant section of the COI page, namely WP:PAY. Axad12 (talk) 12:13, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Please carefully reread what you've quoted: something that someone should do is not a requirement. It's certainly a good practice and what I, too, would recommend. But it's not a requirement and we should not describe it as such. ElKevbo (talk) 12:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

WP:COI also states, The Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use require that editors who are being paid for their contributions disclose their employer.

Therefore, users who are requesting edits about their employer must declare their conflict of interest in accordance with the terms of use. Axad12 (talk) 12:21, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Also the first of my quotes above states you must disclose who is paying you, on whose behalf the edits are made, and any other relevant affiliation, again my emphasis. So the declaration must be made somewhere. On the user page is clearly best practice. Axad12 (talk) 12:24, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

I've implemented a few parts of this request but not others:

• The provided source says that the new dean doesn't take office until October 1 so we need to wait a few more days to make that edit.
• The "Centre" misspelling was corrected.
• I don't think we should say anything about the new building that was purchased until the school actually does something with it.
• I also think we should wait until the school does something substantive with its plans to make InnoLabs - we are not in the business of helping subjects announce and promote plans.
• I updated the research funding. But I also tweaked the wording of the text because the cited source is not explicit about the funding being solely "externally funded."

ElKevbo (talk) 12:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

I have reverted this implementation because it is obviously contrary to WP:COI to implement a COI edit request in the absence of the required declaration of COI. This simple declaration can be made in several ways, for which see WP:DISCLOSE. Axad12 (talk) 13:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for helping to address the changes. Apologies if I didn't follow the instructions properly. I thought I was following appropriate protocol by using the COI flag on the talk page based on this: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#COIPAYDISCLOSE "You may do this on your user page, on the talk page of affected articles, or in your edit summaries." It didn't seem to specify that one was preferred over the other. I am happy to do so in future requested edits. I don't think I fall into the paid editor category based on my understanding of that description because I am an employee of the organization, but editing wikipedia is not part of my job responsibilities. But I can state my employee affiliation in future. Facereiusrei (talk) 14:04, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, please note however the quote given above from WP:COI, an editor has a financial conflict of interest whenever they write about a topic with which they have a close financial relationship. This includes being an owner, employee, contractor, investor or other stakeholder (my emphasis). So, employees have a declarable financial conflict of interest regardless of whether they are requesting changes in or out of work time.

That being the case, my feeling is that the changes you had previously made to the Jelena Kovačević article should be reverted. Axad12 (talk) 14:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for helping to address the changes. Understood re: the ones that were made and not made. Appreciate the help. Facereiusrei (talk) 14:04, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks for making the requested declaration. I will now re-implement the changes made earlier today. Axad12 (talk) 15:19, 27 September 2024 (UTC)